Oh dangit, now I'm going to be a Debbie Downer (because I generally like Ranbir, as well as cute kids), but:
This video is totally parodying/mocking South Indian in much the same way that Switty is mocking hiphop. It's totally playing on stereotypes of SI dress, music, dancing. Whether using those stereotypes is parody or offensive, I'm not gonna get into. What does offend my tastes is that the choreography is not good at all. Which is a double shame, because Ranbir is a good dancer, and because a proper Tamil koothu song can be awesome: http://bit.ly/jAgRSX (Ok, I ended with Arya, which pulls me out of Debbie Downer territory.)
@dustdevil lis Oh noooooo! I guess it is all in our interpretations.
I see a peppy good-natured song with any mockery directed squarely at Ranbir himself. He's just having a good time bopping around and the joke at the end with the kids is the icing on the cake.
ouldn't have got the Southie parodying, because I don't watch many Southie films. Having read this here and on Twitter though, I'm now uncomfortable with the song, because I know that North mocking of the South is definitely NOT from a place of love, but from a genuine feeling of contemptuous superiority.
Thanks for the link to Dei Namma, too - that left no doubt for me that the Ranbir number was taking the Phiss.
Interesting to be on the other side - because I have to join the downer side of the fence (just like I was pro Switty). Something about this makes me uncomfortable - all the people discussing it on Twitter are way more familiar with SI films than I am, but when I saw it (before that discussion began) I recognised the SI style and felt something...off about it. It feels to me like...jumping on a trend - like Dabangg's success, rather than employing the chorrie (which others have pointed out elsewhere is bad, and doesn't use Ranbir's talents to the fullest) out of authentic love, affection, or relevance to anything. SOmething about it just feels wrong to me, is the only way I can describe my reaction.
he is definitely not mocking SI style in this video.......
If you understand the language and the lyrics used in the song, it is bambaiya tapori slang..... with roots in marathi culture and even the dance is "ganapathi bappa morya" style..... which is similar to south indian kuthu..........
for eg: the opening dance by salman in wanted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LUsEKKOalI
The video is inspired by SI dance but ranbir fails miserably........
and the last line by the kids that they need to ask salman is in reference to that wanted song.....
Gosh guys, this is a Tapoori number! It's not trying to mock South Indian films or anything.
Have you guys seen the film Judwaa starring Salman, Karishma and Rambha? A lot of the moves are from there, perhaps its a tribute to Salman, since he is the producer of the film as well? The Sallu reference at the end of the song is very telling of this.
Here are some songs from Judwaa for you people to sample. Very tapoori style!
Oonchi Hai Building: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz8ZTQ6UyT8 Tan Tana Tan Tan Tan Tara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVQP9fULet4 Tu Meri Dil Mein Bas Ja: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vyDaED5qmc Duniya Mein Aaye: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-N-enu-u00
@Ness et. al. See, that was EXACTLY how I felt about Switty but this one just put a giant grin on my face. And I agree with with @NaF that the fact that it's a Salman Khan production and that this is what he's known for kind of explains it all.
[Unlike Switty, where the song comes in context of all the other (mocking-style) marketing.]
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Oh dangit, now I'm going to be a Debbie Downer (because I generally like Ranbir, as well as cute kids), but:
This video is totally parodying/mocking South Indian in much the same way that Switty is mocking hiphop. It's totally playing on stereotypes of SI dress, music, dancing. Whether using those stereotypes is parody or offensive, I'm not gonna get into. What does offend my tastes is that the choreography is not good at all. Which is a double shame, because Ranbir is a good dancer, and because a proper Tamil koothu song can be awesome: http://bit.ly/jAgRSX (Ok, I ended with Arya, which pulls me out of Debbie Downer territory.)
@dustdevil lis Oh noooooo! I guess it is all in our interpretations.
I see a peppy good-natured song with any mockery directed squarely at Ranbir himself. He's just having a good time bopping around and the joke at the end with the kids is the icing on the cake.
ouldn't have got the Southie parodying, because I don't watch many Southie films. Having read this here and on Twitter though, I'm now uncomfortable with the song, because I know that North mocking of the South is definitely NOT from a place of love, but from a genuine feeling of contemptuous superiority.
Thanks for the link to Dei Namma, too - that left no doubt for me that the Ranbir number was taking the Phiss.
Interesting to be on the other side - because I have to join the downer side of the fence (just like I was pro Switty). Something about this makes me uncomfortable - all the people discussing it on Twitter are way more familiar with SI films than I am, but when I saw it (before that discussion began) I recognised the SI style and felt something...off about it. It feels to me like...jumping on a trend - like Dabangg's success, rather than employing the chorrie (which others have pointed out elsewhere is bad, and doesn't use Ranbir's talents to the fullest) out of authentic love, affection, or relevance to anything. SOmething about it just feels wrong to me, is the only way I can describe my reaction.
I just wish he had actually danced with the little boys, instead of them just sitting there. Otherwise, to be completely shallow, Ranbir is supercute.
my 2 cent as a SI :)
he is definitely not mocking SI style in this video.......
If you understand the language and the lyrics used in the song, it is bambaiya tapori slang..... with roots in marathi culture and even the dance is "ganapathi bappa morya" style..... which is similar to south indian kuthu..........
for eg: the opening dance by salman in wanted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LUsEKKOalI
The video is inspired by SI dance but ranbir fails miserably........
and the last line by the kids that they need to ask salman is in reference to that wanted song.....
and another example for mumbai tapori culture would be aamir khan in the film Rangeela:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHx2tPnkkYA
Thanks Ordinary Guy for the info on the lyrics and for identifying the mumbai tapoori elements in Rangeela.
you are welcome liz :)
Thanks for the clarification, Ordinary Guy, and for the link to the Rangeela song - watching Urmila is never a waste of time!
you are absolutely right maxqnz :)
btw, u should check out all the songs from rangeela; they really are awesome!
it was ar rahman's first hindi album.
Gosh guys, this is a Tapoori number! It's not trying to mock South Indian films or anything.
Have you guys seen the film Judwaa starring Salman, Karishma and Rambha? A lot of the moves are from there, perhaps its a tribute to Salman, since he is the producer of the film as well? The Sallu reference at the end of the song is very telling of this.
Here are some songs from Judwaa for you people to sample. Very tapoori style!
Oonchi Hai Building: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz8ZTQ6UyT8
Tan Tana Tan Tan Tan Tara:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVQP9fULet4
Tu Meri Dil Mein Bas Ja:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vyDaED5qmc
Duniya Mein Aaye:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-N-enu-u00
@Ness et. al. See, that was EXACTLY how I felt about Switty but this one just put a giant grin on my face. And I agree with with @NaF that the fact that it's a Salman Khan production and that this is what he's known for kind of explains it all.
[Unlike Switty, where the song comes in context of all the other (mocking-style) marketing.]
Thanks for all the links to songs!
I actually asked Imran the switty question especially for you :-)
The podcast interview should be up next week
-Asim
@Asim Ha ha ha!! I can't wait to hear his answer. ;D
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